The Debate Between The Pope and The Rabbi

Several centuries ago, the Pope decreed that all the Jews had to convert to Catholicism or leave Italy. There was a huge outcry from the Jewish community, so the Pope offered a deal. He would have a religious debate with the leader of the Jewish community. If the Jews won, they could stay in Italy, if the Pope won, they would have to convert or leave.

The Jewish people met and picked an aged but wise Rabbi, Moishe, to represent them in the debate. However, as Moishe spoke no Italian and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that it would be a “silent” debate.

On the chosen day, the Pope and Rabbi Moishe sat opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed three fingers. Rabbi Moishe looked back and raised one finger.

Next the Pope waved his finger around his head. Rabbi Moshe pointed to the ground where he sat.

The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine. Rabbi Moishe pulled out an apple.

With that, the Pope stood up and declared that he was beaten, that Rabbi Moishe was too clever and that the Jews could stay in Italy.

Later, the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened. The Pope said, “First I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity. The Rabbi responded by holding up one finger to remind me that there is still only one God common to both our beliefs. Then, I waved my finger around my head to show him that God was all around us. The Rabbi responded by pointing to the ground to show that God was also right here with us. I pulled out the wine and wafer to show that God, through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus having atoned for our sins, absolves us of all our sins. The pulled out an apple to remind me of the original sin. The Rabbi bested me at every move and I could not continue.”

Meanwhile the Jewish community were gathered around Rabbi Moishe. “How did you win the debate?” they asked. “I haven’t a clue,” said Moishe, “First the Pope said to me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I gave him the finger. Then the Pope told me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and I told him emphatically that we were staying right here.”

“And then what,” asked a woman.
“Who knows?” said Rabbi Moishe, “He took out his lunch so I took out mine.”

LOL!
Let’s not take ourselves so seriously that we cannot laugh at ourselves! Life is to enjoy!
Shalom to all! And to all, a good night!

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About Roland Louis Hansen

I have been: an organization development consultant; a college-level instructor of political science, psychology, and sociology; a public administrator; a social worker; an elected official; a political operative; a community activist; a union official; a shoe salesman and manager, a factory worker; a fast food restaurant employee; and, a custodian.
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